Episodes
Oct. 12, 2026
The Lexi CON - PREVIEW
The Lexi CON is a new limited series from hosts Nancy Moscatiello and Scott Eldridge. The audio only, Tru Con series debuts October 19 wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Oct. 12, 2026
EP 45 | Jen Shah: Real Housewife & Real Criminal
From 2012 to 2021, Jen Shah orchestrated a nationwide telemarketing fraud scheme that targeted vulnerable, elderly, and working-class victims under the guise of selling legitimate online business management services. Publicly presenting herself as a self-made tech entrepreneur while starring on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Shah generated millions of dollars by selling worthless lead lists and bogus services—such as coaching, website building, and tax preparation—that drove thousands of...
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Oct. 8, 2026
EP 44 | DEBRIEF: Produced, Directed and Defrauded by Mary Carole McDonnell
In this debrief episode, Josh Koffman, a former co-executive producer at Bellum Entertainment pulls back the curtain on what it was truly like working under owner Mary Carole McDonnell. While Bellum publicly presented itself as a thriving syndication powerhouse, the guest reveals a high-pressure environment built on operational shortcuts, extreme cost-cutting, and continuous misdirection to keep high-volume television churning out. Over time, subtle red flags escalated into systemic financial ex...
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Oct. 5, 2026
EP 43 | Produced, Directed and Defrauded by Mary Carole McDonnell
What do you do when your low-budget true crime production company is hemorrhaging cash, your employee paychecks are bouncing higher than a trampoline, and lenders start knocking on the door? If you’re Bellum Entertainment CEO Mary Carole McDonnell, you don't file for bankruptcy or try to salvage the business—you simply invent a brand-new persona as a high-flying aerospace heiress. Armed with nothing but unearned confidence, forged documents, and a fictional lineage linking her to the massive McD...
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Oct. 1, 2026
EP 42 | DEBRIEF: The Ponzi Killer Mom
In this episode of The Slippery Debrief, Nancy and Scott welcome former FBI profiler Julia Cowley to dissect the mind of wannabe master criminal Natalie Cochran. From childhood sweetheart to the "Ponzi Killer Mom," Cochran spun a web of government contracts, fake tactical gear deals, and stolen millions—before taking the ultimate step to protect her secrets. Julia Cowley breaks down the behavioral psychology behind high-stakes fraudsters, highlighting the subtle red flags and telltale signs of ...
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Sept. 28, 2026
EP 41 | The Ponzi Killer Mom
They had the life everyone in town envied: high school sweethearts turned local royalty. She was a trusted pharmacist; he was a beloved baseball coach and local businessman. But behind the suburban perfection, an obsession with fast wealth took root—sparking a high-stakes pivot into defense contracts, millions in military tactical gear, and lavish spending. As the money rolled in, so did the lies. When the fake empire began to crumble, the secrets didn't just unravel—they turned lethal. In thi...